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Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:09 pm
by Megadave
Frank Gibson wrote:
arq wrote:How in the world these people can reproduce a vinyl? Do they have access to the original masters?


i think the difficult thing is only in the label


absolutely not...u can see perfect labels with right "scratched" matrix round it...
often, the problems are very little details... the classic l mistake is to re-print a fake with the same colour of the original...the 10 basket it's a really a good exemple in the sense....colors, in fakes copies, are always more clearer or darker...labael is always good printed!!

Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:37 pm
by Frank Gibson
disn't think about color vinyl but everyone can reproduce a black vinyl ...i would find difficult only in label ;)

Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:42 pm
by arq
Frank Gibson wrote:disn't think about color vinyl but everyone can reproduce a black vinyl ...i would find difficult only in label ;)


teach me how to do it! The process must he awesome! And I can't imagen how someone can copy an vinyl without spending humongous amounts of money!

Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:33 pm
by VicSpeed
arq wrote:
Frank Gibson wrote:disn't think about color vinyl but everyone can reproduce a black vinyl ...i would find difficult only in label ;)


teach me how to do it! The process must he awesome! And I can't imagen how someone can copy an vinyl without spending humongous amounts of money!

I want to produce my own vinyls! 8-)

Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:30 am
by massimo
I don't belive the budget to reproduce vinyl are too hight, there are lots of fake in the market sice lots of years

Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:43 am
by Frank Gibson
i agree with mas
it isn't so expensive
I contacted a product house to make my own vinyl ...one day

Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:07 am
by VicSpeed
do you have online references about this?

Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:46 am
by Megadave
VicSpeed wrote:
arq wrote:
Frank Gibson wrote:disn't think about color vinyl but everyone can reproduce a black vinyl ...i would find difficult only in label ;)


teach me how to do it! The process must he awesome! And I can't imagen how someone can copy an vinyl without spending humongous amounts of money!

I want to produce my own vinyls! 8-)



definitively!!!i'll buy my copies....Vs purple vinyl through Sony/Vicspeed-BGM direct!!!Obviously.....made in Spain....the rarest!!! 8-)

just to let u know that...music_chief 09 used 3 paypal's ID for 2nick!!! :shock:
one was already blocked..before starting to sell the radio show....last 2 ID...now blocked!! 8-)
hope will not come back on ebay again...

Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:08 pm
by VicSpeed
Vs purple vinyl through Sony/Vicspeed-BGM direct!!!Obviously.....made in Spain

That's funny! ;)

Sorry for the off-topic Dave!

Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:36 pm
by Frank Gibson
VicSpeed wrote:do you have online references about this?


i found one in italy ...must remember the name...do you want to know? doesn't exist anyone in spain?

Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:37 pm
by Megadave
VicSpeed wrote:
Vs purple vinyl through Sony/Vicspeed-BGM direct!!!Obviously.....made in Spain

That's funny! ;)

Sorry for the off-topic Dave!


No prob Vic...hope u want to consider a VS on translucent green vinyl...just 2copies for me and u....the ultra-rarest!!!8-)

we can use the thread to talk about fakes...generally..

i really hope that we will not use again this thread to add other sellers!!!...hope... :roll:

Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:22 am
by pdalowsky
Great work Dave,

there is a Canadian pick seller who only sells fakes, I can't find his details right now but I will dig them out. I was warned from him by the picknet group so I watched him for a few months selling crazy rare picks time after time

He sold the orAnge 06 picks for over 100 bucks each

Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:19 pm
by arq
That bastard is kind of easy to spot, he always use the same pictures!

Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:08 am
by bu$hleaguer
Fantastic research D!! I agree with all of your findings except for this seller:

-wsl57 (he sells thousand copies of Angel testpress)

It is strange that he always gives different replies when asked about where he got the "un-bleeped" test pressings but I have bought several items from him over the years including a Vitalogy LP with a legitimate promo sticker and I think he either used to work for Epic or had a contact years ago. He recently listed some 2003 bootlegs on eBay that were designated as "promos" and when asked him about them, he replied that although they do not have promo stickers on them, he got them from Epic. I think it is very believable that there were many copies of the "un-bleeped" Angel 7" pressed before Epic decided to release the "bleeped" version to the fan club. These were supposed to be destroyed but there are probably boxes of them that managed to survive and I bet he has one.

Re: WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:40 am
by pdalowsky
bu$hleaguer wrote:Fantastic research D!! I agree with all of your findings except for this seller:

-wsl57 (he sells thousand copies of Angel testpress)

It is strange that he always gives different replies when asked about where he got the "un-bleeped" test pressings but I have bought several items from him over the years including a Vitalogy LP with a legitimate promo sticker and I think he either used to work for Epic or had a contact years ago. He recently listed some 2003 bootlegs on eBay that were designated as "promos" and when asked him about them, he replied that although they do not have promo stickers on them, he got them from Epic. I think it is very believable that there were many copies of the "un-bleeped" Angel 7" pressed before Epic decided to release the "bleeped" version to the fan club. These were supposed to be destroyed but there are probably boxes of them that managed to survive and I bet he has one.


very interesting insight