WARNING TO ALL COLLECTORS: SELLERS'S BLACK LIST!!!!

[theserialthrilla]

i didnt report the israel promos!!!!

as i dont know 100% that they are fake .

[dvi2702]

What do you think about that PEARL JAM ~ SPIN THE BLACK CIRCLE-LIVE AT SOLDIER FIELD ?
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... TQ:FR:1123

The seller tell me it's a double black vinyl with serial number: RG001A

So, different like: http://www.pjcollectors.com/detail.asp?id=752

Fake

[Frank Gibson]

a boot for sure

[VicSpeed]

I received today the Soldier Field red vinyl FAKE.

It's not expensive for those 20$... also a blue TOTD.... (I have also a magenta)...



Thanks Kev for the link!

[theserialthrilla]

welcome

[Frank Gibson]

Thanks Kev for the link!

????? can i?

[PJ88]

i didnt report the israel promos!!!!

as i dont know 100% that they are fake .

Sorry Kev! I misunderstood what you had previously wrote. That would explain why they were still up. My mind is mush from all the eBay!

[pdalowsky]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWAX:IT

not a dodgy seller...but a pirate item...

[pdalowsky]

Beware for the moment....

This http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PEARL-JAM-LIVE-TE ... 35af6bc50e

Questionned today it's authenticity...

Make your own minds up about the reply bearing in mind I only requested the cd matrix :-

'i have told you they are original, they were given to me by a dealer who i trust 100% and have used for the last 15 years, he is in direct contact with the music rep.
yes, it is stickered but that does not mean its fake, you are a collector, you should know that surely!
 
look at my feedback you see there is 100% possitive. 
 
right, i am going to refund you and sell them to someone else, this stupid what do you want the name and number of the music rep, well thats not going to happen.
 
yes i will refund and its best you buy them elsewhere.
sorry to be like this but i am not going to keep on justifying myself over and over again because they are 100% original and that is that,
and dont say "oh well they are fake because i have refuned you" , as that is stupid.
i am refunding you because you are not 100% convinced so this way saves alot of messing around for both of us.'

[Megadave]

yes guys,
mr. countribila is right..

we have some doubts about this promo..
we're waiting to have more info..
obviously we'll keep u posted asap with more details..
probably they're genuine...but we wanna be 100% sure...

[theserialthrilla]

hi


well the guy i got mine from i trust 100% i have bought loads of bit from him in the past all the backspacer promos and the betterdays cd..i have no doubt he sold me my cd thinking it is real..as i believe my copy is.
the chaps a chef working in this magazine publishers and they let him take any promos he likes the look of...he looks out for pearl jam for me.hes not a massive seller on ebay.and he has 100% feedback and does not sell lots of the same item.


i have had my promo well over a month now.so how could he have made this cd before seeing the art work.

go to also say it looks 100% like the ones sold last night for £29..but i dont have the cd side by side .

fell free to make you own minds up..but im saying its real

[pdalowsky]

hi


well the guy i got mine from i trust 100% i have bought loads of bit from him in the past all the backspacer promos and the betterdays cd..i have no doubt he sold me my cd thinking it is real..as i believe my copy is.
the chaps a chef working in this magazine publishers and they let him take any promos he likes the look of...he looks out for pearl jam for me.hes not a massive seller on ebay.and he has 100% feedback and does not sell lots of the same item.


i have had my promo well over a month now.so how could he have made this cd before seeing the art work.

go to also say it looks 100% like the ones sold last night for £29..but i dont have the cd side by side .

fell free to make you own minds up..but im saying its real

Feel yours is too Kev

[VicSpeed]

bought this also yesterday... i thought it was the same Kev owns... not official then?

anothe one was sold for 79€
http://cgi.ebay.es/Pearl-Jam-Live-On-Te ... 550wt_1139

[Megadave]

bought this also yesterday... i thought it was the same Kev owns... not official then?

anothe one was sold for 79€
http://cgi.ebay.es/Pearl-Jam-Live-On-Te ... 550wt_1139

waiting for other info from kev and,,,to see it from a genuine seller..

[pdalowsky]

bought this also yesterday... i thought it was the same Kev owns... not official then?

anothe one was sold for 79€
http://cgi.ebay.es/Pearl-Jam-Live-On-Te ... 550wt_1139

Honestly V? I'm not sure on these at all. 

My belief is that Kevs is real. But this guy on eBay is knocking out fakes based off it. 

Look at his feedback.... Constantly selling the same promo over and over. At least 8 triple pack oasis promo sets, same guy who was selling the fake Japanese acetates not so long back, and we know he is if not the same person at least linked to the 79 euro auction too - through past investigation and knowledge of paypal accounts used. 

The main cause for concern is that yesterday Dave received a 'beware' email from his Uk industry source. Warning him of this fake guy. Saying he always sells fakes and to be very careful with this item.

I had already been suspicious of him after posting 4 in 5 mins plus the other account. So I had yesterday morning asked some questions. I received a rather aggressive reply. 

Below I will post the emails between us yesterday to help you form your own opinion. But as someone involved in the collectors world - someone with knowledge of the tiny important details... When asked about your item - what would you do? Seek to calm those fears by giving out useful back up information and a discussion on why the disc is authentic? OR get a little pissed - tell your buyer that as a collector he should know better, trust his invisible and unknown source, and if you don't like my answer go away and I'll refund you? Something is strangely wrong here.

To finish this I tried to resolve thr situation by saying all I need from you is the disc matrix - so I can compare to a legit copy we do have 'in' our group which came from a universal source? A friendly email - to conclude authenticity easily. Again ask yourself what you would do bearing in mind I bought two copies, would you ignore me and refund or would you say 'yeah I understand with all the fakes around your concern - as I said these are legit.. Here's the matrix ' ..... I got ignored and he lost £60

Bizarre approach to 'cd/record' dealing.

Bottom line is we don't know for sure but I'm sure enough these were fakes. They may be good enough to some, as let's be honest it's a cd with a sticker and an insert that I'm sure will look great.... But not for me.... 

So everyone must make up their own minds on this, I'm just explaining the reason for my doubt

However as I have kevs matrix it would be helpful to have Sams too to compare and get a foundation of what makes these genuine.... If those are totally different - then I have no idea!!!!!!

Kevs source was given the chance more than once to supply another... And although he tried -couldn't get one... If he was one of bootleggers I'm sure he would have managed to get another as he has always got extras for Kev 'in' the past when I have asked him. I also feel that this guy couldn't have made his either as up to then no one had seen the artwork... It's perfectly feasible that magazines would get the cd to review that far in advance too. The price is always super low too. Yeah I'm extremely confident his is the real deal. And a template for fakes. Be carefull all